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Default Clog's struggle - 02-07-2008, 11:47 AM

I am addicted to P and MB. I need to find a way to conquer this addiction as it is ruining my life and I risk losing those I love and everything I care for. I came to this insight in the early morning of 21 January 2008, after a long P session, feeling exhausted, disgusted, depressed and ready to give up on life. I figured writing down my story in all its sad detail would be one step towards recovery. Given that my addiction goes back some 30 years, this is a long story, so bear with me. I started writing this story down offline on 21 January and am posting it online now that I have found this forum. Once I've told my long tale, I'll keep it updated from now on to track my struggle with this addiction.

Let's start with the sorry state of affairs immediately before 21 January. I watched P daily on the internet. I would generally do this late at night, when my wife and children had gone to bed. I would use the PC in our office at home. A session would generally take 2-3 hours. I accessed a few subscription sites and a number of thumbnail gallery pages. Having recently acquired a high speed internet connection, I also started making extensive use of various video sites. I would MB to pictures and videos and at the end of the session I would erase all evidence with a washer programme. I never stored pictures our videos for fear of being found out.

Because my sessions didn't usually start before 11 pm, I would typically only get to bed at 1 or 2 am, occasionally later. I would need to get up for work at 7.30 am, so I would get an average of six hours sleep - sometimes less. As a result, I was underperforming at work and was generally quite grumpy. I was increasingly grumpy particularly towards my wife. Our relationship (together for 12 years, married for 9) reached absolute rock bottom and my addiction undoubtedly plays a big role in this.

My wife is chronically ill and therefore doesn't sleep well. For that reason, we sleep in separate rooms and she therefore doesn't notice that I go to bed quite so late. She assumes I work some more after she goes to bed. She caught me in the act once, some years ago. This led to a partial confession on my behalf, but I didn't give her a description of the full extent of my addiction and she believes, as far as I know, that I stopped looking at P since then. Intimacy between us reduced quite significantly after she caught me, but has recovered to a limited extent. She made it very clear that she did not appreciate me viewing P and that she found it hard to be intimate with me afterwards as she couldn't stop thinking about the images she saw on the screen when she caught me.

While my late night sessions were the norm, they were by no means the only way in which I used P. During weekends, I often stayed at home when my wife and children went out, pretending I had too much work to do. Instead of working, I was straight onto the internet to look for P. Work is a common pretense I use to have time to myself for P and MB, as we shall see later. I recently acquired a mobile phone with internet access, which I used on occasion to view P, but due to the low speed and small screen size, this was limited to situations where I didn't have normal internet access. Very occasionally, I sought out softcore TV channels to MB.

When I travelled - and that is often because of the job I have - the entire journey would often be dominated by my addiction. I used adult pay TV in the hotels where I was staying extensively. I also bought DVDs in sex shops to watch on the laptop, discarding them before the journey home. I would also hang around red light areas, but never actually paying for sex. But I would go to peep shows, stage shows and sex cinemas. When on holiday with the family in a major city, I would go out late at night pretending to go to the pub or to a concert and in fact I'd be hanging around red light districts.

Writing all this down makes me realise how strong this addiction has become, how it dominates my life and how selfish I am being, short-changing my family in the process. There is disgust, ofcourse. Not even so much about the nature of the images I was watching, but because of the lies, the wasted time, and the injustice I am doing my family. I live for P and MB. The rest of the time is simply waiting until I can get my fix. If that takes time, I get more and more angry with everyone and everything around me. I must be a nightmare to live with. Towards the end, I think I was actively looking at P for at least 20 hours per week. And I was thinking about it pretty much all the rest of the time. It has to stop.

I'll tell you the story of how it came this far in the next posts, as time allows.

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Default 02-07-2008, 06:27 PM

You know what, you sound so similar to the way I have been! It really does muck up your life doesnt it, this website is a real help, seeing the misery porn causes to others helps to put it into perspective. I too used to view the porn then delete it after, or watch videos and chuck them away. My wife caught me late one night and I came clean, I looked at porn again after about a month when I was in the house alone for 4 nights and then I had a frank and honest discussion with her and I havent looked at anything since, that was 50 days ago. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I dont dare to look at anything remotely raunchy - ever... as it will be a slippery slope that I will not be able to resist sliding down. If your wife is poorly then you doubt support her with her illness, My best advice is to get your wife involved and to help you in the same way with your 'illness', set guidelines on computer usage and stick to them. the best thing I ever did was getting my wife onboard with my problem, the second best thing was joining this forum. Like you said in another of your posts, dont beat yourself up over your failures, but concentrate on your victories. I certainly hope you suceed in your endeavour my friend.


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Default 02-09-2008, 11:02 AM

Hi Clog, I am quite taken back, by your extremely honest post.

Quoting this from your post:

"The rest of the time is simply waiting until I can get my fix. If that takes time, I get more and more angry with everyone and everything around me. I must be a nightmare to live with."

I would never have thought it. But that was me. It explains all the moods, the depression. ALways happiest alone! (I wonder why)

The power of your honesty, shows you are a strong man, but even with that, I echo Dominus in saying to involve your wife, in supporting you. This will help you tremendously.

Cant wait to see your posts in about 30 days saying how great you feel!


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Default 02-09-2008, 04:23 PM

Thanks Dominus and FoolishMind for your support. I know it is important that I involve my wife in my quest to overcome this addiction. I will, but haven't yet. But what pleases me no end is that she has been showing surprise at a change of mood she is noticing in me, and the fact that I come along to social events I was avoiding in the past. So I guess I'm on the right track.

As I noted elsewhere, you suddenly have an incredible amount of extra time when you're not glued to your computer screen for hours on end wasting time with P. And I'm spending a good chunk of that extra time with my wife and children. I feel a lot more mellow suddenly as well. I've already lost much of that urge to get onto the internet in my search for P, and much of the aggression that came with that urge.

Anyway, this is prime temptation time for me, so I'm going to come off the internet now and switch off the computer and read a book. I'll write some more of my story another day.
   
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Default 02-09-2008, 10:50 PM

One of the things that has really encouraged me - and Foolishmind I believe has similar experience -, is that my wife tells me that she is really proud of me for the effort I am making. Your wife is already showing signs of pleasure at your changes and this can be a really strong motivation to persevere.


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Default 02-10-2008, 06:36 PM

Still doing OK here in my struggle to stay away from P and MB. I had this slip up when travelling and went off track for some days, but now that I'm back home the importance of getting this sorted is very clear again in my mind and I'm determined to beat this addiction. I was clean for 9 days, then had a bad stint while travelling with daily use of hotel pay tv and dvds for 6 days, but now I've been clean again for 6 days. I just need to get beyond that 9 day mark to set myself a new record.

Something that may seem a rather minor achievement but is major for me is that it is now three weeks since I've used the internet to access P. That is 40-50 hours I would have wasted on P browsing gained to spend with the family and to do things I could never do because I was 'too busy'. I haven't felt the need to wipe my browser cache or temporary files and the history shows weeks of browsing, which means I don't have anything to hide. What a great feeling. I might even get rid of my treasured Window Washer, which I used obsessively in the past to wipe out all traces of what I'd seen.

I want to write down the history of my PA, accepting that this is not necessarily of any interest to any of you here, but I feel like it is a necessary step in my recovery process, so bear with me. I've had a fascination with pornographic images, videos, books since a very early age. I think I first started MB at about 11 years of age. I almost immediately started using books to MB to. First they were sex education books I found in my parents' bedroom, then fine art catalogues with nudes in, then lingerie and swimwear catalogues I found around the house. Later I came across pop magazines and pirelli type calendars in my brother's bedroom. When at secondary school, I joined the adult public library and quickly started seeking out erotic literature - anything from Lawrence to de Sade (they were pretty liberal there). I also started buying some still fairly innocent but 'risque' magazines, with the occasional topless model. I guess most of this was still fairly normal teenage boy behaviour, out of curiosity. But even then I started developing some worrying patterns that prevailed throughout my addiction: withdrawing from social activities to study the material I'd found to MB to; spending excessive amounts of time on this activity, particularly at times of stress (e.g. before an exam); a cycle of acquiring and discarding material; allowing my obsession to get in the way of performance at school (and later work).

When I started university my use of P intensified. I had newly-found freedom as a student, having moved out of my parents' house. I started buying first softcore P magazines and gradually started on hardcore. I found that my landlord had a big P stash to which I helped myself liberally. This included 8mm films and videos, so this was my introduction to hardcore films. I discovered phone sex lines and also started making first exploratory visits to red light districts (as spectator only). P and commercial sex became an obsession in this time. I MBed daily, sometimes several times a day. I was withdrawn socially and did worse than I could have done at university.

After university I studied and worked in developing countries, where I generally had very limited access to P or anything even remotely erotic, so my MB and P reduced drastically. These were relatively happy years. I directed my sexual energy into my first relationships and became quite active socially. Looking back, I recognise a sense of liberation even then when there was little P available.

I first met my wife some 12 years ago and unfortunately, at virtually the same time, I got access to the internet for the first time. I first had internet access at work and I found myself exploring P on the internet pretty much immediately. I was still unaware of the ability of network administrators to track browsing behaviour and that browsing can be traced even if the history and temporary files are deleted. This meant I used the work internet connection extensively to look for porn. I started staying at work late, waiting for all colleagues to leave to be able to look for P and MB. I started going in over weekends to do the same. This is when I first developed the habit of lying to my wife about the volume of my work in order to have time to access the internet for P.

I was thrilled at this new virtual playground I'd found and was determined to have internet access at home as well. So I bought a laptop and organised a dial-up connection at home, and this is when my addiction really took off. I started getting up early, before my wife, to look for P and MB early morning. When my wife was out or away, I would spend every waking minute on the internet looking for P. I started signing up for various sites and paying for them by credit card. The lack of caution using credit cards to sign up to all sorts of things landed me in trouble later, with me becoming the victim of credit card fraud. I started dropping out of social events, letting my wife go to them alone, so I could spend time looking for P while pretending to work.

In the meantime we had got married and we were trying to have our first child. This was proving to be difficult, which was hardly surprising with my daily MB habit. I would be intimate with my wife in the evening after having MBed to P in the morning, so my fertility was clearly very low. My wife did get pregnant eventually, during a holiday where I had virtually no access to P and no chance to MB.

The arrival of our first child did nothing to diminish my PA. In fact if anything it intensified as it was a space for me to retreat in where I could withdraw from this strange new reality of being a parent and all the responsibilities that come with it. No doubt I could have been a great help to my wife in all the hours I spent looking for P on the computer. We had our second child and nothing changed, I was now in a well established pattern of spending several hours a day on P and MB, either at home or at work; trying to spend as much time as possible away from home; lying about my workload; being grumpy and dismissive of my wife; and generally being a complete w*nker, in the literal and figurative sense of the word.

How my wife put up with me through all this I don't know. She definitely saw me change for the worse over the years and deeply regretted it. She only caught me in the act once, about 3 years ago. I gave her a partial confession and she made it clear she didn't like it. She found it hard to be intimate with me after that for a long time. I think she believes I stopped after her walking in on me, but I'm not entirely sure if she really does believe that. I think she probably suspects I haven't stopped, but can't bring herself to check on me. My wife has a chronical illness and would find it very hard to cope with two children on her own. So even if she ever had any intention to divorce me, it was never a real option for her. The thought that she has felt trapped in a bad relationship, with someone who is a complete a**hole to her, someone she can't trust, is too sad for words.

I've done great injustice to my wife and my chidren ever since they've been around. There are whole chunks of their lives I've opted out of because I was too busy wasting my time with P. I've allowed my relationship to hit rock bottom and I'll have to spend a lifetime to piece it back together again. I've missed out on a lot in life because of my obsession with P and MB. But I've turned the corner, I'm sure of it.

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Default 02-10-2008, 07:35 PM

Clog, I think every single member will be able to relate to something if not all what you have said in this post. It sent a shiver down my spine , reminding me of some of the things I have done.

But yes you have turned the corner, And I can feel your enthusiasm in your words that you are really looking forward to being a real husband to your wife and a great father to your children.

Thank you for sharing that comprehensive and completely honest post.

Your going to beat your 9 day record! Make you sure you double it! And really do a big shout out post for your 19 days! I look forward to it.


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Default 02-11-2008, 11:24 AM

I can completely relate to your posting Clog. I too have 2 children and a third on the way now. I have taken my wife away from her home and family to a foreign country and I feel that in some ways I have restricted her options for happiness. She also has many ailments of her own, and I have not yet found the courage to discuss this openly with her, for fear of hurting her more than she may already be.

Keep up the openness and honesty. Especially with yourself, because I think that more than those around you, it's to yourself that you do the greatest disservice with those lies.

If you can be honest with yourself, then you can be proud and then you can really help those around you.
   
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Default I can relate - 02-11-2008, 03:50 PM

Clog,
Wow, I can see you've come a long way. Personally, I'm a single man; I've no prospects, even, to consider even being in a relationship. Although I can sympathize with your feeling of distress you feel for what you have done to your family, I don't have much to offer you in regards to that. As for me, when I was 17, I was involved in a near-fatal car accident. If you'd like to read about that in more detail. I am currently in college and live my parents. My father has caught me on numerous occasions looking at P: magazines, DVDs, pay-TV, PPV movies, and quite a number of times the internet (by various methods: walking in on me, checking browser histories, hub-logs, over-hearing videos that I'd start before checking the volume on my computer,...)

I truly feel awful for the strife I've caused my poor old man. Ive been on this site before, and was doing great for awhile (getting to about 7 or 8 days before MBing again, though I was still viewing P movies that were only offered on a web-site, after figuring out how to download them without paying for expensive movie-downloading software(I rationalized it out that "I'm training to work in the computer-feild, therefore I'm merely doing some additional research"), but last night I finally slipped-up again.

However, today is a new day and I'm sure we can conquer this, together, Clog!
   
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Default 02-11-2008, 05:30 PM

Good luck Clog, and lowlyGiant I wish you guys the best today.


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